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What Do You Wear to Ride in Cold Weather

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Burgermiser

Gosport Peninsula-England.

7:44 pm December 18, 2009

posts 127

Sorry it's off the title subject, but……..

Thanks, for the pictures of the Benelli Adiva, Henry. Wink  I see they made a 250 cc. model, as well. Now, that would be worth considering. As it could be used for longer distances. Smile

PS. I think you're quite right, Robert. We should have gone, The whole Hog, on the Metric system, or left it, well alone, all together. No in-betweens.

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rdinning

10:08 am December 18, 2009

posts 107

The Brits should have done it like we (Canada) did. Just switch every thing over to metric and let people get used to the new system by full emersion.

As for what I wear in cold weather. I have a textile jacket with a fleece lining that I wear over an electrically heated vest. The cord attaches the vest to the power has an on and off switch which I use to control temp. I have a thermostat but I've never been able to make it work.

Lower down I have 12" high boots that I wear with my jeans tucked into them and over that a pair of lined leather over pants.

I have winter riding gloves which live in the bike year round since you never know when you'll need them. I also have electrically heated grips with high and low settings.

This all keeps me warm down to about -10C. Below that the chance of ice on the road is just too high to risk it.

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Steve Rhode

North Carolina

9:39 am December 18, 2009

posts 265

Yes, you are correct, the speed signs are in MPH. It all ads to the confusion. I just think the UK does not want to make it easy for people to actually calculate their fuel milage. 

One thing I do miss about the UK is my turbo diesel Mercedes. That thing got 45 MPG on the highway and you can't buy a turbo diesel engine in the U.S. that gets that kind of mileage.

That Benelli scooter is AWESOME! Thanks for the pictures. 

My one claim to fame here, I'm the guy that started the BurgmanRiders.com site.

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Henry_C

The Sunrise Coast, Lowestoft, England

9:31 am December 18, 2009

posts 447

Burgermiser said:  ……..There was another scooter with a ROOF on, which I thought was even better than the BMW. Because you could fold it down, into the back box, on sunny days, in just a couple of minutes. It was the Benelli Adiva. 125 & 150 cc. models. Smile 


Very interesting! I hadn't come across that little beauty before, thanks. Laugh

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Burgermiser

Gosport Peninsula-England.

8:21 am December 18, 2009

posts 127

And….of course, our speed limit signs are still in miles per hour.Surprised

The younger generation have been taught the metric system, which, when I come across it, I automatically convert it back to Imperial.Wink

" Thats another fine mess we've GOTTEN ourselves into. " Yell

There was another scooter with a ROOF on, which I thought was even better than the BMW. Because you could fold it down, into the back box, on sunny days, in just a couple of minutes. It was the Benelli Adiva. 125 & 150 cc. models. Smile

(1.15 pm. Fri. 18th.)

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Colin B

Windsor, Berkshire, UK

3:02 am December 18, 2009

posts 41

Not quite right Steve,

In the UK, petrol is sold in metric (litres), but distance AND speed are still measured in Imperial units (miles & yards).

In the UK fuel consumption is calculated in miles per (UK) gallon, whilst in the rest of Europe they measure in litres used per 100 kilometres.

Ain't it confusing?!

Surprised

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Steve Rhode

North Carolina

7:45 pm December 17, 2009

posts 265

I'll tell you what really drove me crazy living in the UK. Petrol is sold in liters but highway measurements are in miles and yards. X miles to Manchester or 400 yards to exit but speed is in kilometers per hour. I think you did it that way just to make it hard to figure out fuel mileage. 

On the Burgman adverts. I actually saw more of them over in France and Italy. 

The scooter that was my second choice was the BMW scooter with the enclosed cage. When I first saw that in London I thought it was brilliant.

Steve

My one claim to fame here, I'm the guy that started the BurgmanRiders.com site.

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BurgieKing

Yeovil, Somerset, UK

7:03 pm December 17, 2009

posts 174

I had a Buff which I bought from Millets. They are a thin fabric though so not super warm but good for keeping the chill out. For sub-zero riding I think you would need a thicker equivalent which would probably be available from army surplus suppliers. I had one called a headover when I was in the Navy but it was a woolen fabric and very itchy.

Millets now do another product pretty much identical to Buff which I bought to replace my lost one and I think they do ones with furry bits on too.

On the subject of language differences … when I first went to the USA in 1983 I was warned not refer to cigarettes as fags and definitely not to tell Americans that I enjoyed smoking them as they may think I was a serial killer with a grudge against the homosexual community!

Confusion can reign when we are told to drive on the pavement in the US which is what we call the sidewalk in the UK!

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Burgermiser

Gosport Peninsula-England.

5:31 pm December 17, 2009

posts 127

Oi! henry, you're a moderator, moderate that Steve's language! He on about Shag and carpets. Oh ! Surprised

Actually, Steve, we sell shag pile carpets, here, too.Laugh Your pouch, we call a Bum Bag. Some of the blokes down the club, have said the Yanks have murdered our language, but I'm quick to point out, that a lot of the difference, is not you, but us. We've changed our own language, where-as, you've kept our original language. As an example, the word "gotten". In years gone by, WE used to say gotten. But we shortened it to " Got ". So who's GOTTEN it wrong ?Smile Not you !

There IS one word you say, that we know as a slang word. I wouldn't say it on here, but a clue is, American courage. I'll say no more.Wink

So, your Buff, is a neck warmer, Henry said.  I have one. But I bought it as a Damart balaclava. I…..er…..shrunk it in the tumble dryerYell, so I cut the head part off, and now use it as a neck warmer.Laugh

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Henry_C

The Sunrise Coast, Lowestoft, England

3:15 pm December 17, 2009

posts 447

Steve Rhode said:

Scroll down to my first post. It is at the bottom of this thread.

Yes, sometimes those things between the US and UK don't translate well. It took me forever in the UK to not call that pouch we Yanks sometimes wear around our waist, a fanny pack. And imagine, here in the states we actually sell shag carpet.

It's a crazy world. Laugh

Steve


As I'm wont to do I have probably made the comment already somewhere hereabouts: "Two great nations separated by a common language"!

The link at the foot of the thread is still not clear to this pair of Brit eyes however – I suspect a Buff is what we ex-military would call a "Headover", on issue for Arctic service. In other words a tube which can be pulled down around the neck then the top edge pulled up to form a face mask or even all the way back over the head like a balaclava. It CAN also be used as in the style of the Royal Marines preferred headgear once upon a time – the "Caps, comforter"! Nice and snug

BTW If you buy a helmet from Nick Noble ( http://www.nicholasnoble.co.uk/Home.asp ) he sends you a complimentary headover with it! Excellent dealer from personal experience.

There are old pilots and there are bold pilots – but there aren't many old bold pilots!

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Steve Rhode

North Carolina

2:43 pm December 17, 2009

posts 265

Scroll down to my first post. It is at the bottom of this thread.

Yes, sometimes those things between the US and UK don't translate well. It took me forever in the UK to not call that pouch we Yanks sometimes wear around our waist, a fanny pack. And imagine, here in the states we actually sell shag carpet.

It's a crazy world. Laugh

Steve

My one claim to fame here, I'm the guy that started the BurgmanRiders.com site.

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Burgermiser

Gosport Peninsula-England.

2:19 pm December 17, 2009

posts 127

Where's those " Links " you mentioned, Steve ?

And what is a Buff ?

In the UK, if someone is in the " Buff ", they're as nature intended. Surprised LaughLaugh

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Steve Rhode

North Carolina

3:48 pm December 15, 2009

posts 265

I figured the names would not mean much so I provided the links in case you wanted to see a picture of the item and read the specifications.

I used to order LL Bean stuff when I was in the UK, they have a european shipping center so it is less expensive to get than ordering it from the U.S. 

The buff I mentioned is actually manufactured in Spain and they have a site in Spain as well.

Yes, for me the layering is the trick and I can ride in all sorts of cold and or cold wet weather with that kit without it being bulky at all.

Steve

My one claim to fame here, I'm the guy that started the BurgmanRiders.com site.

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Burgermiser

Gosport Peninsula-England.

3:14 pm December 15, 2009

posts 127

Hey ! Steve,

I think, telling us "Trade" names, of your riding gear, doesn't really mean a lot, for us in the UK, because, we can't get them over here.

And even what Colin B said HE was wearing, didn't, either.

What woud be of interest, to most members, everywhere is, what type of material it is, (ie; cotten, silk, nylon etc.) and what sort of thickness, it is.

And, more to the point, does it keep you warm ?

I used to buy " Damart ", which is a brushed Nylon'y type of man-made material, made in France, and comes in varying thicknesses. "Double-Force", was their heavy duty range, and was very warm. I'm sure it was the "brushed" part, trapping the air, that gave it, it's warmth. And their lightest, was almost like silk. I bought both.  They're not cheap!

They also make gloves, scarfs, balaclavas etc. There are other manufacturers, who do the same sort of stuff, as well.  ( 8.15 PM Tues. 15th. )

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BurgieKing

Yeovil, Somerset, UK

1:33 pm December 15, 2009

posts 174

I've copied this over from the other "Where've you been this weekend?" thread …

I think we have two threads merging here – "Where've you been …" and "What do you wear …" but that's the way conversations go I guess, so …

Those of you who were/are in the military or the Girl Guides will know that the secret to keeping warm and regulating body temperature in cold weather is indeed layers (well done Burgermiser – 10pts!), kind of like an onion but it doesn't make your breathe smell, unless you suck your socks or something, but I don't think we want to go there! Surprised

I think I stirred up a wasps' nest (like a hornets' nest but not as big) on the subject of guys wearing tights to keep warm! Many years ago in my previous motorcycling incarnation (or should that be inBIKEnation?) I used to regularly wear thick tights under my jeans in the winter (no, not stockings and suspenders!) and they do work. I found that the wooly or ribbed ones are best as they retain warm air next to the skin better. I have no idea if fishnets work because I refuse to go there in case I find myself in casualty one day, but in theory they should work well because they create air pockets like those old string-vests of yore. Jan, I think you should be the one to verify that, all in the name of scientific advancement of course. Smile

One significant advantage of tights over long-johns/thermals is of course the price. A pair of long-johns costs about £17 in M&S compared to about £3 or so for tights. And to those who think that tights are too girly I would like to point out that us guys were wearing them long before the laydees. Mary Quant has a lot to answer for! Ooh, listen to me going all Gok Wan!! Laugh

Anyone want to call me a sissy I'll drive to wherever you are on "Lawmaster" and whack you with my handbag!


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Steve Rhode

North Carolina

11:15 am December 15, 2009

posts 265

This is my typical outfit when I'm doing 5-6 hours a day. I tend to do longer rides. 

Steve

My one claim to fame here, I'm the guy that started the BurgmanRiders.com site.

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Colin B

Windsor, Berkshire, UK

10:58 am December 15, 2009

posts 41

What sort of temperatures do you get Steve? I rode into work (17 miles) at mid-day today, wearing my normal textile/armouted jacket and trousers.

The temperature was +4 Celcius and my finger tips were pretty cold and sore. But I was wearing my summer gloves! Yell  Time to change to thicker ones!

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Steve Rhode

North Carolina

9:23 am December 15, 2009

posts 265

I was watching the posts in the UK section of the site and was intrigued by what some of the riders wear to combat the cold weather. I thought it would be interesting to hear how others deal with it as well.

I find it very comfortable to ride in temps down to freezing with the following setup.

A pair of Under Armour heavy weight ColdGear pants with LL Bean fleece lined jeans on top. (Love those!)

I wear a regular t-shirt, a long sleeve t-shirt and a fleece. On top of that I wear my Frogg Togg light weight rain suit to block the wind. 

For my hands a pair of lightweight Under Armour gloves is topped with a water proof pair of gauntlet gloves.

For my head I wear a Buff on my head and one on my neck. Works great. 

I prefer to dress in layers. Not only does it help to trap the heat but it also allows me to fine tune the gear as I get hotter during the day. 

So what do you wear?

Steve

My one claim to fame here, I'm the guy that started the BurgmanRiders.com site.


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