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New Member | davemonste 10:01 pm June 4, 2010
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When gas hit $4.00/Gallon here in the states was when I brought my Bergman 650. It gets a steady 50-55 miles to the gallon.
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Experienced Member | lbmac809 9:31 am May 20, 2010
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Rain gear is almost a necessity if you ride as one day you will have to ride in the rain. Make sure the pants fit loose as the first place they tear is the crotch. that makes for a REALLY uncomfortable ride. A good quality rain suit (one or two piece) is a good investment in a dry ride. Totes over your shoes helps too.
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Experienced Member | Pinktatoo St. Joseph, MI 9:11 am May 20, 2010
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Sandy,
I went to Wal-Mart in the camping section and bought rain gear for $9.99 last year.
Big enough to fit over all my clothes and a leather coat if needed. Keeps me dry!!
Hate riding in the rain but love riding more than I hate getting wet.
Rain gear that I have fits nicely under the seat too.
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I'm not riding too fast….I'm flying too low!!
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Advanced Member | MLSCW Central Arkansas 3:49 pm May 19, 2010
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AND… This is one reason I'm driving my scooter to work. It saves me gas $$ in the car.
BUT… I still won't ride in the rain! Helmet hair is bad enough but wet clothes and shoes are worse.
AND… No I don't have rain gear
AND… No I don't want to change clothes in the restroom.
Sandy 
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"Watch out! I'm on the road!"
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New Member | darkside 6:26 am May 19, 2010
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I just paid AUD$1.29 per litre in Melbourne Australia for regular 91 octane, same as the rest of you Goverment (State & Federal) take most as tax :-(
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Advanced Member | alto1_3 Gosport Peninsula. Hampshire, England. 5:26 pm March 29, 2010
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The cheapest I've found, locally, is £1.17p. per litre. And there's 4.546 litre's to our UK. gallon. That works out to £5.32. per gallon.
And it's ear-marked to go up twice more, this year.
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 Moderator | Chet Blountville, TN 3:41 pm March 29, 2010
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We pay £1.20/$1.78 a Litre, which works out about £6/ $8.94 a gallon which is gonna get worse.
Man that is awful. I paid $2.56 per US gallon. The US gallon is smaller than the UK but not that much.
The $!.78 per liter would be $6.72 per U.S. gallon. The U.S. gallon contains is 3.78 liters.
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From the hills of Tennessee welcome to another beautiful day the Lord has made.
I own a 2005 Silver Burgman 400 and 1982 Honda Silverwing GL500I
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Advanced Member | alto1_3 Gosport Peninsula. Hampshire, England. 2:50 pm March 29, 2010
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While not wanting to get "Political", on a scooter forum, but seeing we are discussing the price of petrol (GAS), and the tax thats added to it, I will.
I've said this before, and I'll go on saying it.
(-Once this Financial Crisis is Over-)
As we, the tax payer, are footing the bill, for the running of the country, I think we should have a say, and have access to, WHERE "Every Penny" is being spent.
It is our right! There's too many fingers in the honey pot.
We would then, be able to see the extent of the mismanagement, and wastage, that is going on. And insist it stops. Also, who is claiming for things that should never be claimed for. This goes FAR beyond the MP's shameful Expenses scandal, which is STILL going on.
I truly believe, that, if this was put right, we wouldn't be paying HALF the tax, that we are paying, right now. That includes the Fuel tax.
End of my Rant.!
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Advanced Member | rdinning 9:26 am March 29, 2010
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Here in Canada about 50% of the cost is tax and we are currently paying about CDN$0.984 per litre tho it changes daily as the cost of crude goes up and down.
Because both the provincial and federal sales tax are a percentage of the cost of gas, plus the producer's profit plus the gas station's profit plus the federal surcharge, the tax paid goes up and down with the price of gas so our governments reap big rewards when gas goes up. Currently it's 5% Federal + 8% provincial.
This summer we are switching to a Harminized sales tax of 13% which will cover many things that currently provincial sales tax doesn't apply to like childrens clothing, heating fuels and electricity.
As some one commented on another board we are getting the shaft with threads (screwed)
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 Moderator | Henry_C The Sunrise Coast, Lowestoft, England 1:54 pm March 28, 2010
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It's worth mentioning that the UK Government takes around 70% of the cost of fuel from us as a mix of Fuel Duty and Value Added Tax! And that figure is due to rise and rise as the Chancellor of the Exchequer has promised us that the Duty will rise by 1p a litre from 1 April 2010 with a further 1p rise in October and a further 0.76p payable from January next year. (Previously, the whole increase had been due to apply from 1 April! As if he thought it an April Fool?)
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There are old pilots and there are bold pilots – but there aren't many old bold pilots!
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Experienced Member | lbmac809 12:29 pm March 28, 2010
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Never knew there was a difference between U.S. and U.K. fuel but even so I can now understand why there are so many more 2 wheelers there than here. Scooters aren't as prevelent here as in the UK and europe but if our fuel prices go up again I'm sure there will be a lot of them sold.
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 Moderator | Henry_C The Sunrise Coast, Lowestoft, England 10:11 am March 28, 2010
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rdinning said:
…….. As fas as I know all Burgmans are designed to run on regular gas. Putting higher octane than they need in will only add to what you pay, not what you get.
….and, I believe, burn out the valves ultimately!? I remember an incident I became involved in as an Air Force officer where we apprehended some people who were stealing 130 octane aviation fuel from our planes to use in their cars! To do so safely they were diluting the Avgas as it is called with stolen hydraulic fluid!! As part of the prosecution evidence the heavily stained components of their carburettors were produced!! 
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There are old pilots and there are bold pilots – but there aren't many old bold pilots!
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Advanced Member | rdinning 7:33 am March 28, 2010
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Please remember that octane ratings between North AMerica and Europe are vastly different because they use a different test method. There are two recognized testing methods called Research and Motor. Europe uses Research I believe while here in Canada and the US they couldn't decide so they averaged them using (R+M)/2 for Pump octane.
It's a stupid method, but we are stuck with it. The result is that our octane ratings result in 87 for regular, 89 for midgrade, 91 for premium and 93 or 94 for super premium. Europe ratings are something like 95 regular, 98 premium and 100 super premium – note those are approximate maybe some one from the UK can give us the exact numbers.
The basic point is you can't compare them. As fas as I know all Burgmans are designed to run on regular gas. Putting higher octane than they need in will only add to what you pay, not what you get.
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Full Member | johnp London, England 12:42 am March 28, 2010
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We pay £1.20/$1.78 a Litre,which works out about £6/$8.94 a gallon which is gonna get worse.
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Experienced Member | lbmac809 7:58 pm March 27, 2010
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I use 87 octain and sometime 89 depending on what's on sale. I have seen trucks fron different companies fill tankers from the same tanks. My burgman(an 05 650) works fine on the cheap stuff as well as the name brand. Right now we pay $2.84 average per gallon in my area of Shelbyville, Il.
Just out of curiousity, What do you guys/gals have to pay in the UK? I've heard it's high.
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Advanced Member | alto1_3 Gosport Peninsula. Hampshire, England. 3:55 pm March 27, 2010
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Suzuki DID change the whole setup, on the AN400, and the AN650, for the 2007 models. Which I posted about, on here, some time ago.
But that may have been in England, only, I can't say, for sure. As I read about it, in an English scooter magazine.
Alan.T
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Full Member | johnp London, England 12:43 pm March 27, 2010
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I use normal 95 but on ocations i use 98 as the engine runs smoother.
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New Member | williamson 11:09 am March 27, 2010
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Used to use Chevron 93 octain in my 03. Same with my 07 until I did some gas milage figures. Finding the 86 and 93 got the same milage and I could not see a differance in performance. Suzuki must have changed the engine management computer between 03 and 07. 07 I have not had to reset idle like I did on the 03 between summer and winter. Now I use the lowest octain even buy at discount stations when gas is hard to come by.
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 Moderator | Henry_C The Sunrise Coast, Lowestoft, England 8:47 am September 3, 2009
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I used to have it from a Shell employee that the discounted supermarket gas stations sold lower grade fuel than the branded stations. Whether that's true or not I can't say but there did seem to be a degradation in mileage performance. This was in UK – can't speak for other countries. But we pay so much in taxes on our fuel now that the difference in actual gas costs would be negligible.
Rant over! 
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There are old pilots and there are bold pilots – but there aren't many old bold pilots!
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Full Member | Bigsqueze Madisonville TN 4:06 pm September 2, 2009
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I am wondering about Gas, and what you'al use. I have a 650-2008. Forget millage I want to know what you use and why.
1. Brand, local or national or what ever burns.
2. Octane, 87-89-93 or other
3. Why?
I am finding alot of differences in the gas I buy and the different grades
and I ask, Why is there such a difference from grade to grade from day to day. Nothing is consistant with millage or performance.
Grant
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