The Burgman went into Suzuki today for it's warranty mod. It took 3
hours, so I waited. Drove the bike out and no juddering 

When I got home and began the work listed below I found out what then
had done. The plastic silver CVT unit cover had been changed, as had the
black air intake that bolts onto this, it now has an oval intake which
has a rubber ducting bolted to it, which then dissapears towards the
front of the bike. The idea is to ram air into the CVT area to blow any
dust out. And it was free!

I fitted 18g sliders today and the test ride was stunning. My revs at
low speed running are the same as before but, my old rollers would
redline at 8,500rpm doing 90mph. With the 18g sliders at 90mph I'm only
doing 6,500rpm, and at 7,000rpm I'm doing 100mph!

My fuel reading stayed at 16.5 despite the fact I was nailing it down
the motorway at 90mph!

The above was also as a result of installing a Dr. Pulley HiT Clutch
from Unionmaterial. It locks up well and works a treat with the new
sliders. I also fitted a Malossi kevlar belt at the same time.

Judder, no more 

hi i am new to the forum, have been reading about the low speed shudder onthe  400 bergman.  I have an 07 with 5800ks on it , I have had  our local  workshop forman look at it and while the problem is there it is not too bad .They sent the Bulletin info that I had taken off this site to Suzuki N Z .  Who said the numbers I had sent did not correspond with anything they had .   Here is that number.   GV/AN No 41a.    Reference; AN400 service manual [ P/N  99500- 34102- 03E] .

My query, is this the correct number or have I got it wrong.

Any further info would be appreciated as the bike is going in for it's 6000k service soon.

I find the the bike a good alrounder and can stay with other bikes of bigger engine size. The useful storage in it takes people by surprize.

I would like a bit more support in the back rest , maybe get suppoet re-upholstered to give higher support, is there an after market rest available.

Take it easy out there.

Henry_C said:

He bought it with a few miles on the clock, absolutely as new , condition but may well have been last year's stock, who knows (other than the dealer!)?

---

Well actually,

anyone who lifts the seat up. There's a plate under there, on the frame, that will have what "K" model it is. 

It will also be in the front of the service book for the bike.

Whoops,  I got that, a bit wrong, Peter.   SORRY !

The plate under the seat, has the Chassis number on it.

But it is on page one of the Service Book.

And it is, on his V5 C Registration Document, too.

Alan.

Henry_C said:

He bought it with a few miles on the clock, absolutely as new , condition but may well have been last year's stock, who knows (other than the dealer!)?

Well actually, anyone who lifts the seat up. There's a plate under there, on the frame, that will have what "K" model it is.

It will also be in the front of the service booklet for the bike. Mine has.

If it's a nice sunny day, I may well take a ride up to Swindon.

I'm sure it will be a spectacular event to see.

But I doubt, very much, if I will participate in the ride to Lynham. 

But who knows?…. There's a first time for everything!

I know you mean well, but…….

What I said was, the dealer ORIGINALLY said they didn't know about a clutch problem, and thus, ANY bulletin.

But then said, Suzuki will be issueing one, for the K9.

But when THAT one came out, it only covered the K7, and K8 models. NOT the K9's.

         (I suspect  C. J. Ball's recall, was for a K8, NOT a K9.)            

They then said, the K9's are already cured of the fault, in the build.

But that's also a load of crap! As it's not cured at all. It's still there.

I wouldn't have taken it to a dealer, if there wasn't a problem!!!

I wouldn't have taken that much notice of it at all, and gone along with your friend, who said he thought it was inherent in "Twist & Go's".

But mine didn't start, until I had 1,200 miles, on the clock. So that can't be right.

       Still, it's not a serious problem, at all. Not by any means.

As for the battery, well, they checked the terminals, and they were tight. So they couldn't have been loose, in the first place. They also checked some connector, in the ignition system, and that was OK, as well.

The dealer, who I bought the scoot off, in Swindon, hasn't contacted me, either. So it looks like Suzuki hasn't acknowledged, there's a fault.

So now, there's nothing more I can do, but sit on my hands.

I'll just go on, enjoying my rides, on a very good bike, like I always have.

And if anything does crop up, I'll throw the book at them.!!!

Funny you should say that, Willie. Have you got that, the wrong way round?

Because, if you scroll down to my "Burgermiser" post, on the 23rd. January, you'll see that I quoted an earier, State-Side post, that said it was the other way round.(the five, being re-replaced by three).

I'm affaid to say, there are dealers, and dealers. ie, some are better than others. The people I've been speaking to, up till now, on the phone, have been sales staff. And although they are trying to be helpful, they don't really know whats going on. A salesman said it was no use me bring it in for the F1 light, if its not "on" now.

But I managed to speak to a mechanic, yesterday, who said he's only a salesman, so yes, bring it in.

So I rode 26.4 miles to Chichester, and the mechanics connected it to their conputer.   But it showed up that there was no fault on it. 

So perhaps the salesman got it right, and NOT the mechanic!!!

Strange thing is, Suzuki won't pay the dealer for the inspection time, if there is a, "no fault" shown.  BUT THERE "WAS" A FAULT.

They couldn't explain why the light had come on, or why the engine had cut-out on me, three times. They rang Suzuki, who said lower the ISC valve position, from 118 step, to 81 step. (thats the electronic throttle / idle gradient).

I told them to do it, anyway, if only to have something to charge to Suzuki, on warrantee. That saved me having to pay anything.

I asked them to check the Judder and squeal, when they test rode it, but they said there was NO problem with that, either.

But on my way home, I could still hear it.  Although the judder didn't seem to be as prominent, as it had been.

All in all, it's been a complete waste of time, and effort. So I'm going to carry on as if there is nothing wrong, and keep my fingers crossed, that I have no more problems with it.

Just had the clutch on my AN400-K7 replaced under warranty by Suzuki NZ at 2300km.  Used to have shudder on takeoff and 3 pad clutch was replaced with the new 5 pad unit. It rides like new again! 

   Well, the dealer should have rung me about the bulletin, but hasn't.

                   The Dealer……He speak with " Forked Tongue "

                       Or maybe, Suzuki still hasn't issued it yet.

Anyway, I haven't  experienced any squealing, lately, but it still shudders quite a bit, on take-off.  (but  never on landing, though ). 

                        Except when I give it a big handful.

Alan. T. ( ex. Burgermiser. )

(12 o/c. Midday. GMT )

Picked up my bike yesterday. It was 41 degrees on the ride home, but only my hands got cold.

Talked with the service guy… my bike has 10,200 miles on it. He said the belt is still pretty good and will be ok for awhile but the sheaves are wearing, both upper and lower.

So I ride the bike home to see if the shudder is still there.  It is GONE!

But…he said that I will be able to feel it shift now and some of the noise is still there…that's from the belt and sheaves.  He said I will probably start to notice a bit of a loss of power as the belt wears more.  I did notice a tiny bit at take off but nothing major.

I had asked him how much it would be to replace the belt and sheaves when I do start to notice it more.  The parts alone will be over $600 !!!!!!!!!

Holy crap!!!!    Labor will be practically nothing, about $150.

Oh well…such is the price of being a Burgman rider!

But boy oh boy…was it ever nice to have my butt back on that seat!!  Raining and cold again today and will be in 20's and 30's next few weeks so it looks like I won't be out and about for another month or more.

I am suffering from PMS….Parked Motorcycle Syndrome!

My dealier seemed to be unable to find anything and "never heard of any vibration issues"  But press on.  The service bulletin is GV/AN No. 41A   dated 11/2/09   for P/N 99500-34102-03E. 

Then magiclly he found it.   My problem is that i first reported it under warrante but now im out.  Think it's going to cost me.

But i really love my an400 K8, and i just cant wait until all the snow is gone… but that going to be a few months…

Dan